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Issues with human relationships (how to date a zoo?)

shrimpsoda

Zooville Settler
You have some serious mental instabilities. My girlfriend is into beastiality with dogs and we love each other dearly i would never trade her for a dog we admire each other both and we both dont care about material stuff as much as we care about each other the girls that are looking for money aren't worth it anyway that's why you communicate a lot before you start the relationship so you know what you can expect from each other something you clearly cant you imbecile
Right.. my dear isn’t rich or elite. We both have to work for what we want. That’s just life. One day we’ll get there. I don’t like rich or wealthy guys. Money is nice sure (because you can buy food and pets with it) but a man who works up from humble beginnings and gets to where he wants to be is much more attractive than someone who had everything handed to him.

Those wealthy 10% guys will have little time for their woman, as they’ll be consumed by work 24/7. Why would someone want somebody who has little time for them?

All I’ve ever really wanted was an emotionally available, needy, touchy/lovey hard working man. And I got that man.
 

Zoo50

Citizen of Zooville
Well golly, you seem to have it all figured out...I just need to stop being so obsessively paranoid and learn how to communicate, then all my irrational fears will disappear...🙄

Come on, really...it's not just the worst case possibility of prosecution (remember, I live in a state where bestiality is illegal and have an extensive collection of zoo porn including my own stash of self-made video's with my mares, all of which I have no plans to eliminate), but it's the social carnage that could result from being outed as a zoo.

If you doubt the possibility of prosecution, I give you exhibit A: https://archive.is/WX6rW

This is what happened to Blackstratu5, a former member of BF...I learned of this from a ZV thread here: https://www.zooville.org/threads/mare-day-hd-beastforum-video-from-blackstratu5.1076/#post-17404

And I know there will be those who snarkily will say he was stupid for posting those videos to the internet, but I have to admit I am guilty of doing the same. There is a fair amount of my mare videos I uploaded to old ZV. Which I freely admit is not the smartest move I ever made...😏 But they are out there in the internet ether, and I can't get them back. And let's face it, free zoo porn is a huge reason why most of us frequent sites such as these.
Something needs to be done to stop all these arrests. It is wrong that people are legally allowed to kill animals (such as slaughter and hunting), but something as innocuous as sex with an animal gets people arrested. Animal laws, in their current form, are irrational and unjust. If there were no anti-zoo laws, it would be so much easier to find and date other zoos.
 

mammalsexual

Zooville Settler
Something needs to be done to stop all these arrests. It is wrong that people are legally allowed to kill animals (such as slaughter and hunting), but something as innocuous as sex with an animal gets people arrested. Animal laws, in their current form, are irrational and unjust. If there were no anti-zoo laws, it would be so much easier to find and date other zoos.
Yeah Zoo50, you're preaching to the choir, but unfortunately it's the world we live in. That's a topic best addressed in your anti-zoo law thread. Some interesting and thought provoking posts in there for sure.

I posted a personal on the first zooville. I didn’t expect anything to come out of it, but I ended up connecting with someone amazing. Granted, it’s long distance, but that gives us the chance to get to know eachother before actually meeting face-to-face. We trust eachother not just on the zoo thing but to also be faithful to one another, despite the distance. We connected instantly and we share a mutual attraction. We’re both very grateful for this website for making it happen, but really it’s all him for having the gut feeling to message me.
Thanks for posting this shrimpsoda, it gives me hope.

Whew...looks like there has been quite a bit of activity on this thread since I last posted, including some from the "He-Man Women's Hating Club" faction of Zooville:
You do understand it's so much easier not bothering with women right? Really if you're zoo you don't even think of women in your life at all. Like fuck dude, hit up a bitch and start dating her. It's more meaningful by and large and the sex is fucking amazing.

Fucking up your life by thinking you can trust a ho with liking animals is very dangerous ground and not something I'd ever want to do. Women are petty as fuck as is and divorce and screw over men for way less things than dipping your dick in sweet bitch honey.
Not that I owe somebody with such enlightened views like that an explanation of my sexuality, I find it instructive to repost a couple excerpts from my post on another thread "Anyone left their girlfriend for animals?":

The greatest love of my life was a mare (we had seven amazing years together before she passed), and even though she satisfied me on a very deep emotional, spiritual and physical level, she was no substitute for human companionship. You can't cuddle with a mare in your bed on a cold summer night, can't enjoy a movie together, nor shop for and cook a fantastic meal together either. And on a practical level, an animal can't take care of you when you are sick or old and in-firmed

I've got nothing against those who choose to identify as bestialists either, although all the different distinctions between the different flavors of zoosexuality seems kind of arbitrary and counter-productive to the zoo community...zoophile, zoo-exclusive, bestialist, all those labels could apply to me. It saddens me when certain zealous people try to use these terms to divide us. We need not divide and attack one another when the bulk of society reviles our sexual preferences, and would have us ridiculed, jailed, harmed, or even killed for it.
 

shrimpsoda

Zooville Settler
@Woke

No I've never dated or had sex with women. Not from lack of trying but it's based on women being gate keeping sex withholders who only want to fuck rich, elite men leaving most of us,men with the worthless leftovers to fight over. Living as an incel and reading up on MGTOW helped me a lot.

If you want to keep worshipping women and thinkin they are superior to animal girlies that's your own fault dude.
@Woke got lucky and nabbed himself a hot one.
 

shrimpsoda

Zooville Settler
Something needs to be done to stop all these arrests. It is wrong that people are legally allowed to kill animals (such as slaughter and hunting), but something as innocuous as sex with an animal gets people arrested. Animal laws, in their current form, are irrational and unjust. If there were no anti-zoo laws, it would be so much easier to find and date other zoos.
All we can do is try to not get caught. Especially in this era of smartphones and visual media culture. Having a bit of fun in the woods could turn into an arrest and news stories.
 

ZTHorse

Administrator
Staff member
Yeah no I don't understand that at all. The men that aren't zoo just are in denial of their feelings, especially if they'll fucking watch a woman fuck a dog but not even wonder how a tight bitch cunt feels gripping his dick.
I suggest you stay on topic of dating between two zoos. If you have nothing to input in regards to that, please keep it in the exclusive section.
 

ferritlove

Citizen of Zooville
For me, it's one of the most difficult aspects of my sexuality I am forced to deal with; finding a zoo girlfriend to share my life with. And, yeah, it is at least partially responsible for why I have been zoo-exclusive for close to 25 years. I'm not ready to give up yet, but sometime ago I decided that I have to know that she is zoo from the start. For me I'd rather take the risk meeting someone thru a zoo site such as this than to roll the dice and get involved with a woman you 'hope" will be accepting of your sexuality....
I like your attitude and choice to start out honest. If I had it to do again, I'd like to think I'd be brave enough to let my partner know about my zooisness at the beginning.... giving them a way out.
 

mammalsexual

Zooville Settler
I like your attitude and choice to start out honest. If I had it to do again, I'd like to think I'd be brave enough to let my partner know about my zooisness at the beginning.... giving them a way out.

Thanks ferritlove...either way it's a risk, but for me it's the less riskier option of the two. I guess the upshot of it is that it makes my current zoo exclusivity state last longer, and even though I've had girlfriends before, I'm comfortable living without them. Sort of the side "benefit" of being something of a loner for most of my life *said with tongue firmly in cheek* 🙂
 
I worry about this so much. Like I would LOVE to meet a guy who was into this stuff - like not worrying about being "outed" or whatever, as others have mentioned, this could have serious repercussions that are not just legalities. I have the fear that a meet would be a set up? And I wonder how you would be able to know they're legit before agreeing to meet?!
 

ferritlove

Citizen of Zooville
I worry about this so much. Like I would LOVE to meet a guy who was into this stuff - like not worrying about being "outed" or whatever, as others have mentioned, this could have serious repercussions that are not just legalities. I have the fear that a meet would be a set up? And I wonder how you would be able to know they're legit before agreeing to meet?!
It is scary meeting in RL. Ive done it with 4 people so far and its been great each time. Some were just for talk, some for more. Ive found if you meet in a public place and have a beer or two, you can get a pretty good feel for thd person and decide where to go from there. Do this well away from your home town, dont bring devices with porn on them, etc. Eventually though, you just have to risk it to gain.

2 cents.
 

Zoo Stories

Tourist
I posted a personal on the first zooville. I didn’t expect anything to come out of it, but I ended up connecting with someone amazing. Granted, it’s long distance, but that gives us the chance to get to know eachother before actually meeting face-to-face. We trust eachother not just on the zoo thing but to also be faithful to one another, despite the distance. We connected instantly and we share a mutual attraction. We’re both very grateful for this website for making it happen, but really it’s all him for having the gut feeling to message me.

Of course there were men who were closer to my area that contacted me.. but it seemed more risky. Older men were messaging me which creeped me out. Men sent pics first, I never send pics of myself first. There are plenty of creepies on these sites that will reverse image search your pics. I don’t need to be outed or have my career prospects compromised. My dear partner is very respectful as I to him. We have video called and connected with eachother in other ways. We both thought that it would never happen to us, but it did. We can be ourselves without fear or judgement.
What a cool story! Would you be interested in being interviewed for the Zoo Stories podcast? We're on twitter: @StoriesZoo and our email is: zoostories@protonmail.com
 

Zoo Stories

Tourist
I think there's more female zoos than even zoos would expect, but they're usually very discreet. No telling whether they're unexpectedly common or I'm unusually lucky, but as a pretty much out zoo I've had several women tell me they're also zoo...and one of them married me. Hang in there y'all, it can totally work out with a li'l bravery and luck!
 

shrimpsoda

Zooville Settler
I think there's more female zoos than even zoos would expect, but they're usually very discreet. No telling whether they're unexpectedly common or I'm unusually lucky, but as a pretty much out zoo I've had several women tell me they're also zoo...and one of them married me. Hang in there y'all, it can totally work out with a li'l bravery and luck!
I agree. I think many, many ladies have a dog that serves their oral needs. Then they explore and try out different things with their dogs.
 

AppleDash

Tourist
Trying to meet other zoos is a risky business: even if it goes right 10 times, you only need 1 botched meet to get int trouble. Maybe there is a different risk perception depending on why we want to meet other zoos. A quick browse through the dating section here, I get the impression that most posts in that section aim for meets to have sex. Of course there is nothing wrong with that, but wonder whether attempt to find the more serious relationships would stand out in the dating section.

Then again, suppose you are able to find somebody through a forum like this, then it would make things a lot easier because you would not have to be all secretive about your zoo interests. Yes, it can be easier to find a human partner through regular (non-zoo) means, but that's where Schrödinger's Cat comes in. Until you are 120% certain that your non-zoo human partner is not totally disgusted by the thought of having to share you with a nonhuman significant other, is it worth the risk telling? Not just for you, but also for your nonhuman significant other.

Here you might be inclined to keep your zoo sides a secret, but that can bring along a lot of stress, misunderstanding, and dishonesty. Stress because you somehow have to live a double life. Misunderstanding because your significant other will most likely struggle to understand why you would be affected so severely in case something goes wrong with your nonhuman partner. And dishonesty, because the double life most likely means you have to lie to your human partner in order not to be found out.

Here I came to ask myself the question what is best to do. Coming out as zoo in the early stage of a relation is the big gamble. Hopefully it all goes well, but how can you be sure. Would it be ok if your coming out as zoo is not received as non-negative as you hope it would be received? I don't know what the most likely consequences would be. Would it be morally defensible to live a double life, being dishonest to your human and nonhuman partners at times?

Emotionally and sexually, I am all for the mares, but as mentioned before me, there are some things I would not be able to discuss with my mare. On top of that, the asymmetry of life is cruel to us zoos, because we'll most likely outlive our nonhuman significant others. These are some questions I wrestle with. I know that I wouldn't be the easiest person to live with, yet I haven't totally given up on a future with a woman who can accept me for who and what I am.
 

Zoo50

Citizen of Zooville
Emotionally and sexually, I am all for the mares, but as mentioned before me, there are some things I would not be able to discuss with my mare. On top of that, the asymmetry of life is cruel to us zoos, because we'll most likely outlive our nonhuman significant others. These are some questions I wrestle with. I know that I wouldn't be the easiest person to live with, yet I haven't totally given up on a future with a woman who can accept me for who and what I am.
So in your opinion, is trying to date a person on a regular dating website (and either hoping they're a zoo, or hiding one's zoo aspects from them) better than the risky option of trying to meet a zoo via the personals section of a zoo website such as this one?
 
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ordinon

Lurker
Law enforcement can't do anything as long as you follow a couple simple rules.

1. Don't tell them you're meeting up to have sex with animals. If they say they have animals and ask you to have sex, tell them no and that all you want to do is meet up with them on a friendship only basis.

2. Don't tell them about your sexual experiences with animals. If you tell them you have sex with your dog, then they have probable cause. But if you simply tell them that you are zoosexual, they can't do anything, even if they know you own animals, because being zoosexual is not probable cause for any investigation.

There's no need to fear law enforcement in meetups as long as you do these 2 simple things. You have nothing to fear, because police officers aren't going to go on a personal smear campaign against you. They're job is to investigate "crimes". Honestly, you have more to fear from unhinged radical left wing activists who are bigoted against zoosexuals... It's more likely that some Antifa is going to be doing a "sting" on you than an actual cop, because cops will back out when they realize you aren't interested in meeting up for the express purpose of having planned-in-advance animal sex.
 

Ardzerg

Tourist
Chances are I'll never reveal it to a potential partner, unless the relationship were to develop in such a way that I were absolutely certain talking about this subject wouldn't blow up in my face. Even then, the risk potential is too high.

Most likely the only way any aspects of Zoophilia would make its way into a relationship for me would be if my partner brought it up first.
 

AppleDash

Tourist
So in your opinion, is trying to date a person on a regular dating website (and either hoping they're a zoo, or hiding one's zoo aspects from them) better than the risky option of trying to meet a zoo via the personals section of a zoo website such as this one?
For me the ideal situation would be the one where my potential SO knows about me and my feelings for mares, and be ok with it. Whether that is a fair thing to ask... I don't know.

I also don't know what would be better on this forum versus non-zoophile dating sites. The good thing about the dating section on this forum is that people know you're attracted to animals, and therefore you wouldn't have to deal with the whole should-I-tell-him/her-or-not-question. That being said, from most of the adds here I got the impression they are for casual sex and/or people seeking opportunities to have an experience with animals. In addition, the risky bit here is that there's always the danger of sting operations, hence the advice on what best to do at (first) meets.

Considering non-zoophile dating websites, I think it's a good thing that you can distinguish which dating sites are for no-strings-attached sex, and which ones focus more on those who want sexual / romantic relationships that go beyond casual sex. This means you would not have to dig your way through ads for casual meetups. However, the risky thing here is that you have to make a decision between coming out, or keeping it secret and live a double life.

So yeah, I don't know what is better. Perhaps it just depends on your expectations.
 

ShadowFox88

Citizen of Zooville
Right.. my dear isn’t rich or elite. We both have to work for what we want. That’s just life. One day we’ll get there. I don’t like rich or wealthy guys. Money is nice sure (because you can buy food and pets with it) but a man who works up from humble beginnings and gets to where he wants to be is much more attractive than someone who had everything handed to him.

Those wealthy 10% guys will have little time for their woman, as they’ll be consumed by work 24/7. Why would someone want somebody who has little time for them?

All I’ve ever really wanted was an emotionally available, needy, touchy/lovey hard working man. And I got that man.
I wish and hope to find a girl like you! A girl who enjoys those traits in a man. I personally would love to be wealthy, but only to live comfortably, and to benefit others that I care about. Money to me is nothing more than a tool. I would rather dote on my lovers than work 24/7, anyways! If you invest wisely, money will work for you. But I digress, as that is getting off subject. Your BF/ Hubby is a very lucky man! I wish you both a long life of happiness together!
 

mammalsexual

Zooville Settler
Been trying to find another male zoo to have a relationship with, but it's just not happening for me. Can't even make zoo friends, either. Guess I should stop trying.
Oh man, don't say that. I haven't had a girlfriend in 25 years, but I haven't given up.

I will say I took a stab at dating a couple years ago with a woman I had high hopes for; it didn't work out, but I haven't lost hope.

Don't give up. Be patient. Keep trying.
 

mares4me

Citizen of Zooville
Oh man, don't say that. I haven't had a girlfriend in 25 years, but I haven't given up.

I will say I took a stab at dating a couple years ago with a woman I had high hopes for; it didn't work out, but I haven't lost hope.

Don't give up. Be patient. Keep trying.
I've been trying to make friends here, but that hasn't worked. So, do I continue to run into this brick wall? It would do no good.

Insanity is doing the same thing over again, but expecting different results.
 

ferritlove

Citizen of Zooville
Been trying to find another male zoo to have a relationship with, but it's just not happening for me. Can't even make zoo friends, either. Guess I should stop trying.
Didn't you do some meet ups earlier in the year? I thought things were going OK for you. If you've met one zoo, it's just a matter of time till you find more. Keep up the fight!
 
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